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klipklop 3 hours ago [-]
Even if you look at your purchase history now they have intentionally destroyed that too. What size shoe did you buy 3 years ago? Too bad we are not telling you!
The purchase/shipped/etc email was the lifeline to tracking your Amazon spending and exactly what you bought. Now that is impossible. It's similar to a business refusing to give you a proper receipt and should be likely illegal.
What 3rd party companies I let hoover up my Amazon purchase emails is none of their business.
zamadatix 1 hours ago [-]
Not really having this issue looking through the last 10 years on my account? 1-2 dozen pairs, all have the size info available. Invoice histories seems proper enough - they have the product titles, costs, and seller info but not the entire descriptions.
ashdksnndck 3 hours ago [-]
I went and looked at order confirmation emails from 2019 and confirmed my memory that back then they didn’t list what items I ordered (but did a few years before). At the time I figured this change was intended to fight against Paribus, a startup that would scan your email and automatically request compensation for late Amazon deliveries.
But then I looked at emails last year and Amazon was sending item names after order again. So it seems like this practice has changed multiple times.
albert_e 3 hours ago [-]
I ascribed it to the likes of Google vacuuming all this data at scale from gmail service -- which Amazon actively wanted to avoid (gifting free data to Google to train on and potentially advertize Amazon-alternatives to via personalized/targetted ads based on purchase patterns and preferences)
cwmoore 2 hours ago [-]
For the sakes of individual humans, who unfortunately don't know everything, I wish some of these things would be gamed out beforehand and mooted without dragging us pawns through the accelerating conflicts of giants. I'm not asking for central planning, just recognition for distributed impacts without waiting three election cycles and forgetting everything again.
insom 2 hours ago [-]
I worked at Shopify during this period and their Shop app (the one that helpfully tracks your packages arriving) was a victim of these emails becoming vague.
At the time it felt like a specific reaction to Shopify mining this information to compete. (I have no insider knowledge if they were or were not).
Of course, the answer can be many things -- now it's AI, back then it was 17track, Google, Shopify, etc.
lubujackson 1 hours ago [-]
There is a secondary, more nefarious purpose, near as I can tell. I constantly order items from Amazon that say "arriving tomorrow/Tuesday/etc." then the item invariably doesn't actually arrive when it was supposed to, often outside of Prime 2 day shipping even if a Prime item. But when you go to view the order online it has helpfully updated the arrival date to the new day. They push it as many times as they want to, then act dumb if you call them on it.
I've taken to screenshotting the initial shipping date, but it doesn't make much difference. I don't know what "Prime" even means anymore.
And I live in SF so it's not like there is some logistics problem with my location, either.
mparnisari 3 hours ago [-]
I ordered something yesterday, expecting it today, and the confirmation email contains the actual product images and title (albeit trimmed).
xnx 3 hours ago [-]
Good example of where user agents will need to be more proactive in areas like this to collect and store information useful to the user. In the accelerating "optimization" of online commerce (and discourse) more relations will become aggressively adversarial.
Insanity 3 hours ago [-]
I've been unsubscribing from a lot of mailing lists the past week because my email was getting cluttered.
I noticed many Amazon emails, not just the 'ads' but also the order confirmation, order shipped, rate your order, etc emails related to a purchase. Honestly, never look at any of them because I know most will arrive either same day or within the next 1-2 days and I don't care for rating my orders.
It's only when something hasn't arrived within that timeframe that I check the app/website, both of which are much more useful.
unsnap_biceps 3 hours ago [-]
If your delivery is fulfilled by amazon, they'll ask if you want to send a "thanks" to your driver. My understanding is there are bonuses for good levels of "thanks" and so it's worth clicking though and giving them as much thanks as you can to help them out.
yndoendo 2 hours ago [-]
I rather those drives have Health Care than having to suck up for bonuses.
clumsysmurf 3 hours ago [-]
I wish there was a way to put another phone number under Account / Notifications / Shipping and delivery. Without adding somebody to a "household" or installing apps, I just want someone else to know a package was delivered, and it should be brought inside.
yndoendo 2 hours ago [-]
A better method that limits exposing information to Amazon is to set up forwarding rules with your email provider or client.
I recommend stop feeding the beast. Have not used Amazon in 10 years and never will. They are so big that they harm the buying power of the consumer and selling power of the producer. Personal knowledge gained while working with them.
elzbardico 2 hours ago [-]
You know folks, it is perfectly doable to live you life without buying on amazon.
2 hours ago [-]
aboardRat4 3 hours ago [-]
Enshittification.
jsbisviewtiful 3 hours ago [-]
Yeah, seriously. We keep being promised by these very empathetic and so honest tech CEOs (messages probably broadcasted from their bunkers) that all these AI tools will make life so much better for us, but so far for most things I use things have gotten worse - and I'm still trying to find affordable computer parts, which has been a total joke in the last year. Thankfully I bought my PS5 and Switch 2 before all the price creeping really started
ksudb 3 hours ago [-]
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1970-01-01 3 hours ago [-]
After checking every box to never get any email from Amazon.com, I followed-up with a catch-all auto-delete rule for the domain. That was 10 years ago. I have experienced zero issues with their services. As a nice bonus, I'm immediately aware of anyone trying to phish me via Amazon orders.
The purchase/shipped/etc email was the lifeline to tracking your Amazon spending and exactly what you bought. Now that is impossible. It's similar to a business refusing to give you a proper receipt and should be likely illegal.
What 3rd party companies I let hoover up my Amazon purchase emails is none of their business.
But then I looked at emails last year and Amazon was sending item names after order again. So it seems like this practice has changed multiple times.
At the time it felt like a specific reaction to Shopify mining this information to compete. (I have no insider knowledge if they were or were not).
Of course, the answer can be many things -- now it's AI, back then it was 17track, Google, Shopify, etc.
I've taken to screenshotting the initial shipping date, but it doesn't make much difference. I don't know what "Prime" even means anymore.
And I live in SF so it's not like there is some logistics problem with my location, either.
I noticed many Amazon emails, not just the 'ads' but also the order confirmation, order shipped, rate your order, etc emails related to a purchase. Honestly, never look at any of them because I know most will arrive either same day or within the next 1-2 days and I don't care for rating my orders.
It's only when something hasn't arrived within that timeframe that I check the app/website, both of which are much more useful.
I recommend stop feeding the beast. Have not used Amazon in 10 years and never will. They are so big that they harm the buying power of the consumer and selling power of the producer. Personal knowledge gained while working with them.